How did you think Obama and Romney performed in this debate? (And a friendly reminder to please talk about the issues and not resort to name-calling.)

I'd call it a tie. Others may say Obama won by a small margin, however ONLY because he was more charismatic this time -- and that is all. I think Romney made a good point. Look at Obama's record. Is this country better off than it was 4 years ago? He does not deserve a 2nd term.

Romney was the clear winner for me. Much more in touch with facts, Obama more emotional, a lot more stuttering and pausing. The Libya issue is going to haunt Obama, he flat out lied about what he said, Romney missed it but it has been brought to light at this point.

Obama WON by a landslide!

Obama took full responsibility for the Libya crisis. Cheers for the courage to say the buck stops here. Cheers for the middle class of the world's greatest democracy and for the 99.1%!

Obama did much better than the first one but he does not have my vote. Obama is not a strong man. He is threatened by testosterone and Romney has a lot more of that.

Once again the President spoke but with little substance to his remarks. Just the usual h/c and saying "Next time"

OBAMA..he won while being respectful, strong and factual. Romney was a bully tonight and he was very rude to the commentator while spewing his non- specific plans. Great job Mr. President.

I am interested in hearing from the "undecided" voters how they perceived this debate..For me it was a tie in theatrical performance and a win for Obama in substance..

Pending Approval
Frank D.
12:32 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I am interested in hearing from the "undecided" voters how they perceived this debate..For me it was a tie in theatrical performance and a win for Romney in substance..sry for the error in previous comment..

rOMNEY WAS RIGHT ABOUT OBOMA SAY THAT IT WAS ATEEROR ATTACK NOT A TERROTIST ATTACK AND the moderator later admitted she was wong when she interupted Romney. their a difference between calling things a terror attack and a terrorist attack. And he called it a torrorist attack. Romney also did good when he list the Presidents's failures.

Neither Obama nor Romney are going to change the course of our State, region, or County. That course was set decades ago by BOTH parties with Free Trade (NAFTA) as a segue to the WTO and GATT. End game - not "high paying export jobs" but to get corporate interests to the government controlled labor of South China - controlled by the totalitarian government there to $0.60 per hour, and import the goods produced into the US tariff free. I am running for the Macomb Community College Board of Trustees (an unpaid position) consistent with my pledge not to become part of the problem. My name is Frank Cusumano, and I am a 30 year resident of Macomb County. I have been very active in local Republican Party politics, and as people who have dealt with me know, I place following the law, and the Michigan Constitution above partisan politics. I am not for sale at any price, and I am told, that will limit my political career. I have four children in the Utica Community Schools, and one at MSU James Madison College.

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Romney proved he doesn't know what he is talking about. Hey, Scoob - read it and whine:

" As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya
- http://goo.gl/PDcvS September 12, 2012 10:43 A.M. EDT

So, repeat after me slowly - President Obama knew and told the truth; wanna-be Romney lied while trying to make political hay. And this after Romney failed to acknowledge our troops in combat during his acceptance speech, claiming “When you give a speech, you don’t go through a laundry list. You talk about the things that you think are important".

Right. 68,000 soldiers in an active combat zone don't merit a shoutout during your acceptance speech - indicative of Romney's disconnect.

President Obama won the debate. Period. Next.

Romney without a doubt,bye,bye,Barry!

Romney continues to change his position on issues and contradict his earlier campaign statements. Who knows what the real Romney will do? Why isn't the media taking him to task over his lies?

Obama's position on "social" issues is spot on. We must end discrimination against women and gays. And we have to stop the fossil fuel industry's strangle hold on our economy and politics.

Both came out swinging like Ali vs Frazier. In the end I felt Mitt Romney got the better of the president. Unfortunately for obama he has a 4 year record of failure that Mitt just took apart. Make no mistake obama has never been challenged like this before his life and at times you could see the steam coming out of his ears. In a post debate CNN poll Romney won by a landslide on the question of "which canidate could better handle the economy". Ultimately people vote their wallet in presidential elections!

President Obama recieves a TKO in my book. Romney said it took 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror when in fact the day following he said "no act of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation.....". This is romney trying to dis-credit the current admin and it failed.
Romney tried attacking Obama on Detroit and the auto bailout when in fact Romney wanted to let detroit go bankrupt and that would have forced GM and Chrysler out of business. he did not want to use gov't money for bailout but use private sector money. the banks were in a crisis and private loans were not available. Without money fron the gov't both companies would have gone under. Keep in mind, how many of our friends and neighbors would be out of a job without the bailout. How many of your friends and relatives would be without their pensions or have their pensions severely reduced. Look at the tax revenue our local area collects from Gm,Ford and Chrysler, what kind of effect would that have had on our economy, our schools and the infrastructure. That alone should make us all think twice about who we are voting for. An to make matters worst, how many Republicans in our area who work for GM and Chrysler are still going to vote for Romney. Each and every one of them would throw their mother an anchor if she was drowning.
Romneys tax plans just dont add up either the middle class in his plan will continue to bail out while the greedy rich get richer.

What was so telling was Romney's disdain for woman..he cannot handle female commentators, and he also has little respect for the very office he wants to occupy. What candidate in history says to the President during a debate.."hang on you'll get your turn?" He needs to refer to his "binder full of woman" and see what they think. When you have no plans,when you are a broken record with the same memorized lines at each venue, you simply say the same speech you always say..only louder. He was actually offensive to me. For those of you who are Romney supporters, please know I do not have blinders on, I was simply turned off by his antics.
Let's not forget his true feelings when his comments were released during his back door meeting.."I will use Ann sparingly so people don't get sick of her." President Obama would NEVER speak that way about our first lady. Why? Because he doesn't feel that way!!!

Crowley was wrong about the terror statement. Her colleague Anderson cooper pointed it out. We CANNOT afford four more years of Obamao.

I just wish that when Mr. Obama throws out the claim that Mr. Romney only cares about and courts the "rich millionaires", that Romney would would bring up the fact that Obama hobnobs with, courts, and is heavily supported by the "rich millionaires" such as Oprah, Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, David Letterman....all of whom he cherishes ad nauseum. Just sayin'

Hey DJG, you said it "what did Bush do in 4 years" nothing but put us in a stupid war that cost us young lives and trillions of dollars. And what budget are you talking about? If we go back to the way republicans ran this country we will be another recession. I would like to know what is Bush's legacy?

Why is there an attempt to name a winner and loser in a Presidential Debate?? No score was taken. This isn't a sporting event. Issues are discussed. To me, winning/ losing is irrelevant.

The country forgets where this started 4 years ago when President Obama took office-
The President steadfastly and consistently worked to fortify and support this country. Passage of historical Affordable Care act- support of the auto industry and his steadfast belief in ALL people of this nation. The Republicans have absolutely obliterated their beloved President Bush from existence after two Wars and policies that have gutted this nation- The Republicans really want to go back to the policies of deregulation, war mongering and extreme right social policies that in effect do nothing for this nation. No thank you! Thank you President Obama our entire family will continue to support you.

I will support anyone that takes office, for it is this country and our values as a whole that define us, not a single party. However, being a mother of girls, I agree with President Obama that I want my young ladies to have the same opportunities as any man. I also do not want any man or party to make medical decisions for my daughters. I think there is always someone pointing fingers and quick to ridicule, but I cannot imagine anyone could have fixed our country in a 4 year period. McCain would not have gotten us any further than we are. Unfortunately, no matter who wins, we have a long uphill climb, that not being the fault of either party running for office. That being said, if you fall in the middle class, really think about who is truly looking out for you and your family vs. who just wants to win. Obama won my vote when he took down Bin Laden. I think many americans needed that closure. I commend him for standing up for women and gays as well. Best of luck to both candidates <3

On "The View" which was after the Rose Garden "acts of terror" remark, Obama quoted that they didn't have all the answers and that it was a spontaneous mob reaction. Footage from the embassy show that there was no spontaneous mob. So seems like a cover up to me. And yes even Anderson Cooper had more info. If the president truly thought it was a terrorist attack, why did he spend the next two days campaigning in Nevada and taking to The View? Shouldn't he have been discussing
strategies with the joint chiefs of staff? Speaking of which,
he is the first president to decide to skip the daily morning
briefings/ discussions with the joint chiefs. This has posed
a problem because there has been no general discussion and exchange of ideas. He just gets the paper brief - and is the FIRST president to think it is OK to miss the meetings.

Just to clarify....I should have used the word "gentleman" vs. "Party" in my statement "that not being the fault of either party running for office". I figure I should clear that up before its brought to my attention. I come in peace, I'm not trying to start a feud between parties :D

Best dichotomy of the night was the answer to the question about equal pay for women..

Obama: I signed the Lily Leadbetter Equal Pay Act
Romney: I employed a woman once and let her go home early to cook dinner.

Way to get the old patronizing white guy vote, Governor Romney!

Who cares?

It is one night and everyone has an opinion based on their preconceived notions. What really counts is who has the plan, experience and performance to get us back on track and on to prosperity?

Interview each of the candidates based on their experience and record of results, not what they say about the other guy. They both have records, they both have made promises in the past, and did they keep those promises provide the results they guaranteed?

We should spend our vote on the candidate that can do the job, not what they say on a particular day.

Obama most definitely won! He spoke about his many achievements in contrast to Romney’s sketchy and often disproven plans. And, Romney was way too aggressive, rude and broke the debate rules by asking questions directly of the President. Romney also demonstrated his interest in making political gains over the Libya incident, something he’s been doing since that incident was first learned of, and he avoided answering the “equal pay for equal work by women” question because he opposes equal pay. Romney wants to take women back to the 1960s, based on his plan to end Planned Parenthood and other backward aims.

Most media outlets and polls agree, Obama won.

CNN Poll: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

CBS Poll: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57533850/poll-obama-edges-romney-in-second-debate/

ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/obama-wins-presidential-debate-populist-intent-17496358

LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-presidential-debate-obama-wins-20121016,0,6482056.story

Forbes.com: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2012/10/16/obama-wins-testy-second-debate/

Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/tv-zone-1.811968/barack-obama-tv-presence-outshines-mitt-romney-in-debate-1.4124452

No Red State-Blue State poll this time?

At this stage it's hard to believe that anyone hasn't made up their minds. The debate was very poorly run. Some of the questions were off the wall. President Bush was not running. Why didn't they ask President Obama how he would be different from President Carter, another failed President.
President Obama had 4 minutes more time than Gov. Romney. He had to try to get his point in there.
The moderator 's choice of topics certainly were ( what they thought would be in Obama's favor) Obama's talking points.
Obama's lies seem to go over all of thier heads. His words are out there, right out of his own mouth.
Liberals don't pay attention to facts.
BETH, points to all the liberal polls, what a joke!! Obama could have forgotten where he was, and they would have touted him he winner.

I'll never support Republicans! They, Bush and W. Bush, brought this country to its knees.

We are NOT better off than we were 4 years ago! My husband lost his job in 2008. He is still not working ful-time. We struggle to make ends meet. We have no health insurance. Personally, I am not better off than I was 4 years ago. I know many people who share my circumstances. Where do you people get your facts? The media is biased - be careful! Investigate it for yourselves. Ask people you meet - get their opion - I know lots of folks who say, "I'm not better off than I was 4 years ago." Oh, by the way, have you bought gas lately?

The American people won because they are now starting to sort out what this race is all about. The President has fought hard for ordinary people, and we expect that will continue. His record is much better than the billion dollar marketing program against him claims, and he has a plan for the short and long term future. Mr. Romney has nothing. He changes opinions (and distressingly values) like a chameleon, and his slick salesmanship offers nothing but rhetoric. How would he create those 12 million jobs? How would he cut more taxes and still lower the deficit? How will he demonstrate that he knows anything at all about diplomacy and foreign policy. It wasn't close and it shouldn't be in November. Obama is the thinking person's candidate.

If Obama is for women, why does his administration pay them less than men of equal position?

Saying act of terror as a generality does not specifically point to this attack. If that was the case, why go to the UN, the View, and send out the State department cronies on Sunday news shows and continue to talk off a video?

Libya is an issue and it directly reflects the craziness that has exploded over the pay 18 months in the middle east. This administration has weak leadership. Bowing to the Saudi king? The last time I checked, the leader of the free world bows to noone.

Obama won - all the media outlets said he did - CBS, CNN, ABC! Big deal. All these outlets are in the tank for Obama. I suppose MSNBC and the New York Times think he won too. After last debate, anything remotely presentable on his part was going to be declared a win for Obama.
It is not the job of the moderator to advance the President's position. Even if Romney was wrong about whether the president referred to the incident in Libya as terrorism, it's Obama's job to respond to that, not the moderator's. Psst - Your bias is showing (again).
The MSM is on a no holds barred crusade to drag this loser over the finish line.

The only binders in which Willard made collections of women are probably those published by Playboy.

Obama and Romney weighed in on plans to deal with illegal immigrants. Romney suggested that the children brought to this country illegally by their parents might be able to earn citizenship by serving in the military. So Mr. Romney tell us how you really feel about these families who are trying to find a better life for their children! The best place for them is the military? Is that to prove their patriotism?

I have served in the military. If you're telling me that a four year commitment to the armed services is too much of a burden, then go back to your home country!

They didn't mind going to our schools and using our services for a prolonged period of time without having participated in taxes. One caveat would be to ensure that all participants must be able to speak fluent English.

I think it would be a good plan. It would also give these young men and women a better understanding of what it means to be an
American.

Its not like most kids couldn't do without some structure like the military. I would support an initiative like this and we would be better as a country for it.

I don't believe there was a clear winner but I do believe the moderator was a clear loser. I thought she was doing an overall good job until she decided to interject herself with her fact check- which was incorrect. She lost a lot of credibility as a journalist.
At this point, I find it difficult to believe that there are very many undecided voters. Apathetic perhaps, but not undecided.
Reading these comments shows just how divisive our country has become, not good folks. The class warfare, women vs. men vitriol is nauseating. We are Americans first and our opinions can be disagreed with but shouldn't be vilified.
I am the daughter of an immigrant, sibling to 3 union members-one at the state level, one is a teacher and one works for GM - the sister in law of a tier II supplier, the aunt of 2 gay nephews and a working mother trying to keep it all together, I can not begin to tell you how I have been vilified for switching my vote to Romney this year by my leftist friends. When I voted for Obama in 2008, my right wing friends did not bash me in the same manner. I'm finding out the hard way who really belongs to the party of intolerance. Note- I said friends. My family was taught to respect another person's opinion. And guess what, some of my family members who "should" vote for Obama, because of their sexual orientation and union affiliation-yep they've switched too. But need to remain silent in the workplace due to fearing reprisal. Sad state of affairs my friends.

Has there ever been a president who has caused such a mean-spirited, political divide in this country?? If so, name him.

This country has to come together if we are ever going to get anywhere. Obama is not the leader who will get us there.

OK, I'll try: NIXON.

Why are only liberal comments being shown? It is my belief that Romney is the better overall candidate for the repair and restoration of these great states of America. That said, neither candidate actually answered the questions asked. They used this as a free for all campaign speech, allowed by the liberal biased moderator. In four years, I have NEVER heard anything but lies out of obamas mouth. It's time for him to go.

The Tigers were beating the Yankee's, so very people watched anyways. I don't believe any ratings numbers for debates.

Will Mitt Romney file to amended 2011 return after the election... Mitt Romney did not claim all of his charitable deductions on his 2011 tax return. This was done to artificially keep his effective tax rate above 13 percent to keep Romney's taxes in line with a claim he made earlier this year that he had never paid less than a 13 percent rate without this deliberate overpayment, he'd have had an estimated tax rate of just 12.2 percent, the lowest he's disclosed for any year. So he's paying 14.1% of his total income in federal taxes this year. But the most cynical part of this ploy? I predict Romney will simply file a revised tax return the day after the election, making his effective tax rate for 2011 just 12.1%. Question, Mitt Romney will you amend your 2011 tax return?

Mitt Romney drove his family on a 12 hour run to Canada in 1983 -- and put his dog on the roof, in a dog-carrier. Now, the family swears that poor Seamus LOVED it -- which might even be believeable, it's just like a dog sticking his head out the window and enjoying the fresh air, but more so, right? Except for the REST OF THE STORY.

While they were driving, Romney's oldest son Tagg noticed a brown liquid running down the window of the car. That's right, Seamus was making it very clear to the family that he was not enjoying his view perch.

But that's still not the weirdest part of the story. Mitt Romney pulled the car over, got a hose, and washed down the car and the dog. Fair enough. But then he put the dog back on the roof and drove the rest of the way!! That's the kind of cold, heartless logic that made Mitt so good at.

Now (February 2012) there's a new twist. Romney has always insisted the dog loved riding on top of the car (despite the fact that he defecated himself, and Mrs. Romney told reporters that Seamus "lived to a ripe old age." But the New York Observer reports that two of Romneys' sons told reporters, off the record, that Seamus actually ran away when they got to Canada. The Romney campaign has no comment. Question, Mitt Romney did Seamus actually run away?

Predatory Capitalism --The most famous example is an office supply company called American Pad and Paper. Romney and Bain Capital bought it from Mead Company, when it had total debts of $11 million. By the time they sold it, the company had $400 million in debt -- and Bain had earned $100 million off the deals, between fees it charged the company for managing it and for buying other companies, and profits from selling the company's stock after they took it public (for yet another fee). Bain was later sued by stockholders for fraud in overstating the value of the company. Question, Mitt Romney is this the way you will manage the federal government?

Medicare Fraud That Made Him Rich -- In 1989, Romney led Bain Capital's purchase of Damon Corp., a medical testing company, and took a seat on the Board of Directors to better manage it. During Romney's four years, Bain tripled its investment, and Romney personally made $473,000 -- while Damon plumped its profits with Medicare fraud (running thousands of medical tests doctors didn't want, and billing Medicare for them). The company pled guilty to crimes committed during his tenure and paid a record fine of $119 million. Company President Joseph Isola pleaded no contest to fraud, and a vice president was also convicted.

Romney claims he "uncovered" the fraudulent claims and "took corrective action," but court records show that he did not notify prosecutors or stop the fraudulent billing. He just asked company lawyers what changes they could make to avoid prosecution, after the feds' LABSCAM prosecution targeted a different medical testing firm. The cheating continued, prosecutors say, until the day Bain sold the company to Corning. Furthermore, Damon Corp. was required to list in various SEC filings any significant legal risks it faced. Romney made no mention of the fraud he "uncovered," even though it led to a $119 million fine, the largest in history. Damon Corp. is another Bain acquisition that later went bankrupt, killing over a thousand jobs -- but not before Bain made $7.4 million in profit. Question, Mitt Romney is this the way you will manage our health care?

Mitt Romney's immigration policy -- Mitt Romney makes a big issue of being tough on illegal immigrants. He has pushed for a wall on the Mexican border so hard that Bill O'Reilly offered to call it the "Mitt Romney Memorial Wall."

The only problem is, Romney has hired illegal immigrants to tend his gardens for over 10 years. Three illegal immigrants interviewed by the Boston Globe said they have worked on Romney's lawn for years, that he greets them with a "Buenos dias", and that his wife was friendly and often asks how they are. Two were interviewed back in Guatemala, where they have returned. They made $8 to $9 per hour working 11 hour days. "They wanted that house to look really nice," said one worker, now back in Copado, Guatemala. "It took a long time." The other, Rene Alvarez Rosales (now in Suchitepequez, Guatemala) said it cost him about $5,000 to have a smuggler take him across the border.

They all work for "Community Lawn Care with a Heart," a small company run by legal Colombian immigrant Ricardo Saenz. Asked about his workers' statements that they were illegal immigrants, Saenz said "What you've heard is not my problem. ... I don't need to tell them to show me documents. I know who they are, and they are legal." When Romney was asked about the workers, he said "Aw geez" and walked away. Question, Mitt Romney what is your immigration policy?

Does Mitt Romney tell the truth? -- In his 2008 presidential campaign, Romney simply lied repeatedly while trying to reinvent himself as a conservative.

For example:
-- "I have a gun of my own." (Not true. He was talking about a gun one of his grown sons own.)

-- "I've been a hunter pretty much my entire life." (He hunted once at 15, and a second time in his late 50s.)

-- "I told you what my position was, and what I, what I did as governor; the fact that I received the endorsement of the NRA." (No - and his Democratic opponent actually had a higher NRA rating)

-- "I saw my father march with Martin Luther King." (No, they never marched together. They were both in Michigan at the same time once, but Mitt was in France on his mission.)

-- "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit." (even more false...)

Question, Mitt Romney should our president always tell the truth?

Mitt Romney's new war with Iran -- Mitt Romney, incredibly, was able to avoid serving in Vietnam because he was on his Mormon mission, driving around the French countryside. (The Mormon church defined missions -- which all good young Mormon men go on -- as a form of priesthood.) In fact, not one of Romney's five sons has served in the military either, despite Mitt arguing for U.S. military involvement in Iran, Syria and elsewhere. Even more outrageously, when he was asked to justify this hypocrisy, Romney claimed that his sons were serving the country by driving Winnebagos around Iowa and campaigning for him. Question, Mitt Romney after your elected president following in the footsteps of George Bush and invade Iran looking for weapons of mass destruction -- Question, Mitt Romney should your sons join the military and go?

"All Obama had to do was show up in that debate last night and they were gonna call him the Comeback Kid, but he's not. I'm telling you: In the deep, dark crevices of their minds, the Democrats and the consultants and the media people on the left know full well that this was not what they're portraying it to be. This was not a game-shifting event last night." -Rush

Obama had nothing last night. He can't talk about his failed record. Candy was propping him up and feeding everything to him. What a dolt.

Is Barack Obama a Muslim? Educated in Madrassa? Won't Salute the Flag? Fox News ran a story claiming that Obama had been educated in a madrassa school in Indonesia. If you're not familiar with that term, it's a type of fundamentalist Muslim school, often funded by the extremist Wahabi sect of Islam (with Saudi money) and often very anti-American.

There was only one problem with the story: it was completely false. Yes, Obama had gone to school in Indonesia as a kid; two schools in fact. One was Catholic, the other was a public school, with teachers and kids of various faiths.

The only scandal here is that Fox News ran the story with no facts or reporting backing it up. They simply repeated a story from a highly partisan website, with no effort to check out the school. It's there, still open, and easily visited. Reporters who did so found out that the story was false in minutes.

There have been several other stories about Obama floating around in emails -- that he has no birth certificate, was born in Kenya, refuses to put his hand over his heart when saying the pledge of allegiance, that he is secretly Muslim, etc.

Question, Barack Obama are you again going to let Mitt Romney bully you, push you around and tell falsehoods to the American voter... Debate tally so far... Barack Obama (1) -- Mitt Romney (1) -- Scot Beaton undecided -- maybe this year I'll vote Libertarian. Patch thanks for the post.

P.S. Mitt Romney record for job creation as governor of Massachusetts...

By the time Mitt Romney left office, Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in job creation. Using state-level statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the federal government’s official source of employment data... figures for non-farm jobs, seasonally adjusted. And because the Massachusetts governor takes office in early January... data for December of each year as a baseline. From December 2002 to December 2006, Massachusetts ranked 47th out of 50 states (not including the District of Columbia) in job growth. (Calculated that by using the number of jobs at the beginning and end of the period for each state to determine the percentage change and then ranking the states.) Only Ohio, Louisiana and Michigan fared worse.

P.S. Mitt Romney record as governor of Massachusetts budget deficit...

Romney: Mitt Romney claims that while governor of Massachusetts, he cut spending and balanced the budget.

The Reality: Governor Romney left behind a $1 billion budget deficit for the next governor and saddled Massachusetts taxpayers with more debt per person than any other state.

P.S. Mitt Romney record as governor of Massachusetts...

Mitt Romney promised to bring his experience from the corporate boardroom to Massachusetts -- the same promise he’s making now during presidential debates. But Romney economics didn't produce then...
• Stagnant job growth: During Governor Romney’s term, Massachusetts fell from 36th to 47th out of 50 states in job creation, while the overall U.S. economy grew.

• Declining manufacturing: By the end of Governor Romney’s term, Massachusetts had lost more than 40,000 manufacturing jobs -- a rate twice the national average.

• Higher taxes: Gov. Romney raised taxes on the middle class, but pushed through a tax cut that overwhelmingly benefited 278 of the wealthiest individuals in MA.

• Highest debt in the nation: Under Mitt Romney, Massachusetts’ debt burden grew to the highest per person in the nation.

• Increased government spending: State spending increased every year while Romney was in office, and he left behind a $1 billion deficit for the next governor.

• Jobs outsourced overseas: Governor Romney failed to protect good jobs in Massachusetts, and actually outsourced state jobs to India.

Scot; Ok we get it your for Obama. But if what you say is true, then why are we seeing these damning figures, and assuming you are correct and I am not saying you aren't, why isn't the mainstream media just hammering Romney on this. I watch Morning Joe every morning from 6 to 7:30, ok I listen to in on XM. I have never heard any of this. If he was so terrible, why haven't we heard from anyone in the MA lesgislature. I am pretty politically aware and listen to both sides. Bob Beckle on The Five has never discussed or mentioned any of this and I would think he would be going ape poop on this. Obama has MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the NYT, and the Washington Post, the daily beast, newsweek, time magazine, the LA Times, on his side writing for him. Why haven't these organizations written about all this. Why is Scot Beaton more aware of Romney's performance in MA then the entire media industry. Maybe I am wrong. Well at least Romney has have a plan. It may only be 5 points, but it is more the President has put forward.

Romney, "Government does not create jobs."
Romney, "I will create 12 million jobs in 4 years."
Which is it?

Were all going to vote for a candidate on November 6. I choose to vote for a man who has been successful in business versus a man who has managed to hide his educational records and with help from the media, covered up his radical affiliations.
I'm still unsure why people who are successful are being vilified. I was always taught if I worked hard enough or had a great idea, I could be wealthy beyond my dreams. Mind you, that hasn't happened, but I still believe America is about the only place that happens any more. I choose to protect that by electing Romney.

I want to be the 1 percent. Hopefully I can donate as much money to less fortunate people that Mr. Romney has. He's donated more than Biden and Obama put together. He's not perfect, but I trust him more than the cover up in chief we have now.

 Once Obama is stripped of his negative messaging, he has nothing to say.  His defense of his economic recohrd and his energy drilling essentially boiled down to asking people what they wanted to believe -- their own eyes or Obama's worn out cliches

  Barack Obama is about to learn the lesson Jimmy Carter learned in 1980 when he lost to Reagan -- and found his lead collapsing after the debates.  When a president with a failed record tries to win by attacking and demonizing his opponent, he can succeed only if there are no debates.   So sorry Barry.

Barack Hussein Obama will be running around the stage at the next debate like a crazed Muppet. But he will be worse than last night and he won't have Candy to bail him out. He's toast.

Here is something laughable to talk about. Last night Obama ran around saying how much money we are all going to save when our cars get 50 mpg. What he neglected to mention and unfortunately Romney wasn't breifed on is what the increased cost is going to be to manufacture a vehicle that gets that kind of gas mileage. Estimates are anywhere for 5 to 10K more. So yes you will double your gas mileage, it is gonna cost you 40k to buy a Chevy Malibu or Honda Accord.

Obama certainly won the award for "Most Improved Style". His own style, that is, which is essentially as a Chicago Politics 'Carnival Barker'.

As far subsance (what there was in that 'debate') Romney had the superior grasp on issues and function.

Each man won in his own category.

Overall at the Finish Line: ROMNEY BY A NOSE!

Everyone will take away what they WANTED to hear in the debates and that's not necessarily what's actually been said. Folks "on the fence" need to stop listening to media sound bites and seek out multiple sources of NON-BIASED information for the answers to what these candidates are about.

FHVoice - you're part of the problem with the political system - open your eyes for a minute and see that republicans aren't all satan and have some good ideas - to say Go Obama/Biden/Democrats means you vote straight ticket only and don't care what anybody else has to say - that's not how this world should operate.

Mares Hichert - you're also part of the problem, if you listened to what Romney said in that private party, you'd understand he never said he didn't care about the 47%, just that he wasn't focused on trying to sway their votes. It's quite a different thing - but again, if you want to hear something that's all you'll hear, which is clearly the case here.

Erin - referring to the "binders of women" crap - how I heard it portrayed is romney was provided a group of men as applicants for a cabinet position, he asked why there weren't any women in the group. Heaven forbid we stop to think that 1) there weren't any women that applied for the post or that 2) there weren't any qualified women that applied. Just because you're a woman doesn't make you qualified to do something, just like being a man doesn't qualify you do to something. People again are playing stupid games that will get us nowhere. In my industry, women are the majority, there are programs in place to advance women and miniorities, and women and minoirities get paid no differently than similarly rated white men. Should I now complain that I'm being discriminated against as a white man?! Lunacy!

Doesn't matter who won. It's all a scripted beauty contest. Beware.

The polls are now starting to reflect what is really going on: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/mitt-romney-gallup-poll_n_1979318.html?ref=@pollster&ncid=webmail1

A meter reader told me that he was reading meters in Madison Hgts. There were Romney and Obama signs up. Within the last week, he has noticed quite a few take the Obama signs down and REPLACE them with Romney! People are starting to wakeup and see the light. Hallelujah!

Let the facts speak for themselves:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-18/obama-pursuing-leakers-sends-warning-to-whistle-blowers.html

Eric Holder, attorney general under President Barack Obama, has prosecuted more government officials for alleged leaks under the World War I-era Espionage Act than all his predecessors combined, including law-and-order Republicans John Mitchell, Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft.

The indictments of six individuals under that spy law have drawn criticism from those who say the president’s crackdown chills dissent, curtails a free press and betrays Obama’s initial promise to “usher in a new era of open government.”

I guess this "new era of open government" means, only if they approve of it.

http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play

Even as advanced battery maker A123 Systems struggled for financial viability, it played the Washington insider game, where political money and access go hand in hand.

The Massachusetts firm dished out nearly $1 million to hire a powerhouse lobbying firm with close ties to President Barack Obama between 2007 and 2009, and two of its top executives made personal donations to several high-profile Democrats in Congress as it won federal funding for its efforts to build the next generation of lithium batteries for electric vehicles.

Yeah, Robert - Romney is doing so well you don't even have to vote!

(Pssst! The numbers do not reflect Tuesday night's debate where President Obama had a stronger performance than wanna-be Romney, whose empty plans for the economy and shoot from the lip foreign policy discreditation was on full display. As was his "you have to let your women go home and cook" outlook on women in the workplace. Oh, and his "I recruited women" lie has blown up in his face, and his lame "I shouldn't have said that 47% thing when everyone could hear" dodge is not working.)

Yeah, Robert, you've got it in the bag!

You are right Mark. They are just trying to energize their base now with this binders stuff. trying to manufacture another war on women. Wanna talk women? How about there are 780,000 MORE unemployed women today than when Obama took office. These stats are according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

And what are Barack Hussein Obama and Biden talking about? Binders. They do not offer any specific details on what THEY will do for a second term, yet they throw these cliches out. That is all they have. That is how much contempt they have for you and me. Tell me how you are going to put these women back to work!

The popular medias have done an excellant job at miss-informing you on many facts.
Here are a few that I don't need the media to tell me: I go to the gas pump and pay nearly $4/gal . When 4 yrs ago it was at $1.87/ gal. I go to the grocery store and find prices have doubled and even tripled from 4 yrs. ago. Lets face it things are not better!!! Then more money is being taken out of my paycheck to pay for Obama-care mandates.... The little bit of retirement funds we had have not made a come back we are lucky if we can manage to just keep it from losing more ( and now we think that thats awesome cause at least it's not dropping in value) Investment funds ARE supposed to grow.
Then, about the wars, are you happy that Osama bin Laden is gone? Thankyou President Bush ( oh my gosh I said his name) thankyou for waging war on al-Qaeda. I love how Mr Obama takes the credit for getting bin Laden and then complains about the funding of the war and taking care of our Vets.
I'm sorry Obama fans, but Romney is our only hope. It's disappointing to say that Obama has been a total failure but it's true.

Sorry..but a few typos that I didn't go back to correct, and there is no edit button. I do KNOW is what I meant to say of course..

CarRcool,
equal pay? not for you? Romney could not and did not answer that question.

ROMNEY: "I know he keeps saying, `You want to take Detroit bankrupt.' Well, the president took Detroit bankrupt. You took General Motors bankrupt. You took Chrysler bankrupt. So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did. And I think it's important to know that that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet, so they could start hiring more people. That was precisely what I recommended and ultimately what happened."

THE FACTS: What Romney recommended did not happen, and his proposed path probably would have forced General Motors and Chrysler out of business. He opposed using government money to bail out the automakers, instead favoring privately financed bankruptcy restructuring. But the automakers were bleeding cash and were poor credit risks. The banking system was in crisis. So private loans weren't available. Without government aid, both companies probably would have gone under and their assets would have been sold in pieces.

Romney loves to talk of balances to budget as Governor.

This tells how: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney

Pay special attention to how people, no matter how ill they were, could only remain hospitalized for 20 days.

This binder business is asinine. He hired more women than men in his cabinet! Vilify the guy some more. He let his employees have flex time so they could meet all of their needs at home and at the office.........what a mean man!

So the beloved Hillary told women to quit whining today too. The fact that Obama paid women less than their make counterparts in his administration must be setting in.

Obama plays on women with his "let the government take care of you. I'm here for you." What women want is a JOB and the prospect of a bright future for themselves and their families.

Never trust a politician who tells a Russian leader he will have more flexibility after he gets re-elected. What does that mean? It can't be.good for the US.

Romney's leading Obama by 4 pts now in PA! Seems to be the women's vote Obama is losing. Oh yeah. Building momentum. MI and OH are next! http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153

CatsrCool,
We are not a Socialist country,we will never be, and you know that. You didn't answer my question..do you believe in equal pay for woman? You didn't answer and neither did Romney. BTW..gas is over $9.00 a gallon in London and many other countries as well.
I will not be surprised if Obama is re-elected, he has laid out his plans, and Romney has not. The big surprises will come if G-d forbid Romney is elected. Remember this..HANNITY,LIMBAUGH and countless other conservatives hated Romney..they said he is not "conservative enough", now suddenly he is the 2nd coming. All the Republicans have wanted since Obama took office is to get him out, they just can't stand the fact that this man won. Geez..Republicans cannot even agree on their own base.
Look we will never agree, at least a few of us are capable of having a civil dialogue. The name calling on this thread is nauseating, and childish.
Obama-Biden, that is my vote.

US Communist party again endorses Barack Hussein Obama. Bill Ayers, Frank Davis, and Sol Alinsky must be proud of their protégé! 

The American Nazi Party and The Aryan Brotherhood endorse Mitt Romney. Does that make Romney a Nazi? Yeah, I didn't think so either.

Jenna Jameson has endorsed Willard Mitt Romney! Pass the popcorn!

Bush's fault! Our fault for electing a guy who could not and cannot apparently correct it.

Lee Iaococca endorses Mitt Romney!  And He's a lifelong Democrat!

"Mitt Romney has successfully led both public and private sector turnarounds. He is a bright and successful man; he is a good man, a caring man, a man of integrity, family and faith. Importantly, he recognizes we are in a tough situation," Iacocca said in a statement released by his office."With dozens of years of real world experience in the public and private sectors, he knows what he's talking about. His policies will enable a stronger America, one in which all Americans can share. He was groomed and trained for this moment. The future of our country is at stake."Yes, OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE! I know this won't mean anything to the Kool-aid drinkers who blindly go along with Obama as he destroys this great nation with his Marxist philosophy and his disregard for the Constitution and our founding principles. WAKEUP!

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121018/POLITICS01/210180513#ixzz29oLedpML

The Orlando Sentinel is waking up. A traditionally left leaning newspaper endorses Romney:

http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/p.p?m=b&a=rp&id=2888196&postId=2888196&postUserId=41&sessionToken=

And women around the country are waking up. What's Obama's big plan for helping women? Contraception??? That's a plan???

And FINALLY people are realizing, even Democrats, that Obama HAS NO PLAN,  just stammering and bloviating-- finally people can see that the Emperor HAS NO CLOTHES!

Candidates leading 50%+ (mid-October) Gallup "Likely-voter" have all gone on to win election. Romney 50%+ 3 days Obama ZERO days.

If Pres. knew & said Benghazi was act of terror on 9/12 & 9/13, why were Carney & Rice claiming it was spontaneous mob violence days after? -- Brit Hume 

When the Obama campaign resorts to having Biden wave binders, utilizing Mother Jones "Romnesia" tag line, and is now running extremely negative ads in Ohio with the banner, Romney- he's not one of us" I think it's a pretty clear indication that even they know how desperate their outlook has become. He's fallen a long way from his message of unity and criticism of negative campaigning. He was right, when you don't have a plan or can't stand on your record, the only recourse is negativity and attacks. He's living proof of that now.

Kathy, if you feel that George W. Bush was good for this country (notice how he's nowhere to be seen these days), vote for Rommey -- their policies are almost identical.

Romney's aim is to make the rich richer at the expense of the poor and middle class. And while policitics can get nasty as you point out, Obama is not perfect, which he admits, but he's a much better choice for average workers than Romney.

Furthermore ... our economy is improving--and with LITTLE help from the Republicans--whose primary goal when Obama took office was NOT too create jobs--but to obstruct practically every Obama initiative so they could make him a one-term president. There's still a Jobs Bill sitting in Congress that would improve our infrastructure (creating roads, bridges and school) and create countless jobs, but the Republicans have blocked it. They don't want Obama's economy to improve for fear he'll get re-elected. This is immoral in my opinion. Why anyone would vote for a person and party whose goal is to enrich those who are ALREADY well off is beyond me.

Improving? You've got to be kidding! No. We need someone in office now who knows what he is doing. Someone who can unleash the power of capitalism from the freest nation on earth. The liberal experiment is over. Time to turn it back over to the adults. And really Roy, stop blaming the last 4 on GWB. It's really pathetic and worn out. Obama had both houses of Congress and has wasted it . Time to step aside.

Robert, YOUR party had 8 YEARS to destroy our economy, the LEAST we can do is give Obama 8 to FIX it!!! To reward the Republicans with the White House after the catastrophe Bush and his party left us in would be the epitome of foolishness! Do you really believe that providing $5 Trillion in tax cuts (skewed mostly to the wealthy) and spending $2 Trillion on weapons the Pentagon hasn't asked for is WISE!??? Well, that's precisely what your man Romney plans to do. Like all Republicans, his aim is to make the rich (who've done phenomenally well during the past decade) even richer while slashing programs for the poor and middle class. Your vote will ensure that happens.

No, Robert, not kidding! How's your 401k look compared to Jan 08? How's it feel to have the Iraq war over and a plan for exiting Afghanistan? How's 30months of job growth feel? HOw's Bin Laden at the bottom of the ocean feel?
If "turning it back to the adults" means turning it back to the repub policies that created this mess, no thanks!

Keep drinking the Kool aid. You'll be alright. Yes, let's see. The middle east its pin fire. 23 million unemployed. Still no plan from Obama. You blame "filibustering" unbelievable! If that is the case, how did the Dems push Obamacare through without 1 republican vote? And 16 trillion ADDED on Barack  Hussein Obama's  watch. Oh yes, he did kill Bin Laden and takes all the credit, but then can't man up and call a terrorist act terrorism, lies about it, has Hillary take the fall because the buck stops with her. We can't afford 4 more years. It's much worse than Jimmy Carter and he will meet the same fate because the American people, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents see him for what he is: an empty suit. You know that I am right.

If you think turning the country back to the same crew that crashed the economy and led us into unfunded wars is a good direction for the future, you probably have Romnesia.

If you accept Romney's "I asked for qualified women" lie, even after knowing that a bipartisan women's group had identified female candidates for any gubernatorial administration and they were give to him UNSOLICITED, your Romnesia is getting worse.

If you plan to vote for a man who considers you unwilling to take responsibility for yourself because you are not making enough to pay federal income tax, your Romnesia is surely clouding your mind.

While "Obamacare" covers pre-existing conditions, note that the only way you get to keep that coverage is if you vote Obama/Biden/Democrats 2012.

has any one seen the documentary obama 2016 it was in theaters and now out to see on demand ?

president obama won easily. romney says one then says the opposite. although he has made it clear he could careless about the middle class and poor. i could careless about another debate. romney has nothing that would convince me to vote for him.

Now I understand all these above comments from the liberal kooks and crazies. This explains their delusion and their anger at their pending loss.

The Democrats' Rough Re-entry Into Reality
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/19/the-democrats-rough-re-entry-i

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/
All False statements involving Mitt Romney

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http://consortiumnews.com/2012/11/01/the-source-of-romneys-lying/
The Source of Romney’s Lying

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http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/
SUMMING UP THE CASE AGAINST ROMNEY THE LIAR: WILLARD'S LIES ABOUT THE ECONOMY, PART TWO

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139793/-Mitt-Romney-Lying-to-victory
Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 06:05 AM PDT Mitt Romney: Lying to victory by Barbara Morrill

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October 11, 2012 Has Romney Gone Pathological? A Master Class in Lying by LAWRENCE DAVIDSON -- Mitt Romney might be the most brazen political liar since James Polk. Polk, who was the 11th U.S. president (1845-1849), lied through his teeth–to Congress,Johnson (Vietnam) and Bush Jr. (Iraq), but Polk had the same audacious, “lying is part of what I do,” disposition as does our current Republican candidate.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/10/11/a-master-class-in-lying/

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http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/109452/chrysler-gm-romney-jeep-china-obama-detroit-rescue
Chrysler, GM to Romney: Stop Lying -- Mitt Romney’s attempts to mislead Ohio voters about the auto bailout get more brazen by the day. And if you don't believe me, listen to company officials from Chrysler and GM.